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Welcome to the Be pain Free Radio show with Dr. Ward Wagner. 

 

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Hello. 

 

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Hey, glad to have you here today.

 

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Thank you. All right. I’m glad to be here.

 

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We are talking to our listeners about Calmare. Today. Yes. So, this is a great show. We’ve talked about Calmare before. Always interesting, and you always have great information. Let Today let’s talk about you. Let’s start off about you. 

Because I think it’s important that our listeners understand that you have amazing credentials. Why are you a chiropractor? Why do you like to treat pain? I’m gonna just gonna hand it off and…

 

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Okay, tell us Thank you. So, I love everything natural pain relief. And the reason is, well, getting started in chiropractic. That’s a whole story that I’ve told before, in and of itself with my own injury, going to a chiropractor and having a miraculous healing. Which was phenomenal, because I had never known what a chiropractor was, right. 

So, when I went to him the first time, it seems so simple, but yet it was so effective

 

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When you were a big athlete and was constantly failing. 

 

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Kind ofa jack of all trades. But yeah, plenty of injury, lots of injury. The only sport I didn’t injure myself in was pole vaulting. And that’s because it’s not supposed to be a contact sport. 

So, you know, the rugby, the football, right? Even basketball, lots of ankle sprains. So, I’ve had plenty of time in the rebound…

 

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…to hurt yourself, right? 

 

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But what I’ve discovered in treating my own injuries, and living through it, and now of course, being over 20 years in practice, is that when people heal naturally, it’s real healing is what I call it that makes a lot of when you are treating something with anti inflammatories it’s still the body that needs to heal, you may decrease inflammation, but still the body has to heal. But then on the worst side, if you’re doing things that simply cover up pain.

 

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Pills, yeah.

 

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Yeah, pills. There are very surgical procedures, yes, various types of injections. If all you’re doing is hiding or masking pain, then these problems can fester and worsen and, and never improve. 

And that’s a lot of what we’re going to be focused on today with the calmare and the conditions that it helps is those things that are just all the all the has historically been done is just hide and cover up as the disease worsens and worsens underneath. 

 

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Great. 

 

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So yes, I love natural pain, I love seeing people get better. And what I mean is truly better. Like if I were just to give somebody a painkiller and watch them walk out of my office pain free, it’s like, that’s really nice, they’re relieved and they’re happy. 

But in the back of my mind, I know what the end result is going to be. You know, sure. And that’s why pain management is called pain management. It’s not called pain cure for a reason. 

Because many conditions, that’s all you can do is try to manage the pain. However, the there’s limitations on what drugs can do, and people, many people are just not aware of the things that can actually fix some of those conditions, 

 

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Whichis why we do this show. 

 

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Exactly. 

 

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Why gives people hope and understanding and options. Yes, absolutely. And natural healing.

 

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Which is a natural, and again, what I call real healing. 

 

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So,one of the things I really love you to touch on is your you’ve got extra credentials, we you know, you’re really an expert in automobile accidents, not having them but right following up behind. So let us let our listeners understand your experience because you really have a great experience. 

 

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So, like, like I mentioned over 20 years of practice was experience. And during that time, I have my first start was becoming an independent medical examiner I was actually approached by an acquaintance of mine who worked for state farms as a claims adjuster, and he asked me to do a second opinion examination with a patien and, and then express where I thought that it may go and or what needed to happen with that patient. 

You know, were they really injured? Right? Did was treatment reasonable and necessary. Anyway, that started me down the path of actually becoming a board certified Independent Medical Examiner. 

And so that was through the America, and it sounds redundant, but anyway, the American Board of Independent Medical Examiners obey me, it’s called. I’ve been certified in that for nearly 22 years. 

And so, I’ve done hundreds of independent medical examinations, primarily with car accident injury, and work comp injury. Okay, so work comps a little bit different. The work that I do there is impairment ratings, primarily in Nevada. 

And what that is, is permanent disability exams, so people that are permanently injured on the job, do an examination, give them what’s called an impairment rating, which is kind of a percentage of body impairment. 

So, in other words, if I lost my little finger, I think that’s and I can’t remember off the top of my head, but it’s either a 5%, or a 7% whole Person impairment. 

 

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Okay, that makes so Right, right. 

 

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And so, it means that I’ve lost 7% of my whole-body function if I lose my little finger. And of course, like thumb is much higher. That’s like, 15%. Right?

 

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That’s interesting.

 

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So yeah, there’s this whole what I call the big green Bible, it’s the AMA’s, permanent guides to impair.

 

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The pinky doesn’t compare to the entire arm. That’s interesting.

 

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It’s a fascinating world to be in, and very few doctors do it. But that has gained me a lot more experience, because, as you mentioned before, car accident injuries, motor vehicle accident and injuries. 

In the end, if there’s a patient who doesn’t fully heal, then we need to do an impairment rating on them to prove that they’ve got a permanent disability. And that, yeah, the insurance at fault insurance company needs to take care of compensating them for that in some fashion. 

But this kind of work has also landed me in the courtroom a lot. I’m testifying and trial as an expert witness both on the plaintiff and the defense side. I do treat my own car accident injuries in my office we see many that way. 

I’m known for being very thorough in my workup exams, so that I don’t leave any stone unturned. I think what I mentioned have mentioned before is that with car accident injury, the body injury is somewhat similar to the car injury in other words.

If you get hit by your car, because now there’s so much fiberglass, and shocks and things like that built in under the surface of your car, many times your car can look quite normal. And all you have to do is go in and plaster paint buffet out, and it looksfine.

 

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You could have paint and it looks great on the outside, right? 

 

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But you may have structural damage underneath it doesn’t allow it to drive normally anymore, things like that. 

So, if all you do is superficial fixes, then there’s still a problem underneath. And it’s the same way with our bodies. You know, sometimes you might have like a sprain strain type injury, which is faster

 

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No one can see you’re bleeding. You’re not bleeding, you’re…

 

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There you go,ditch them up, and they don’t see what’s deeper underneath. Interesting. And so. So yeah, going deeper, looking deeper is what I tend to specialize in because I want to make sure that I get something fully fixed. 

Not just superficially not just pain relieving, but actually functional. So free age better. Yes, pain free just like this.

 

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Great thought. You’re listening to the be pain free radio show with Dr. Ward Wagner, Dixon chiropractic, give them a call today 6-7-3-1-4-4-3. You can also head on over to their website, a great website, Dixiechiro.com and today we are talking about calmare. So, what are some of the conditions that cow mare which is a machine can help?

 

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Yes. So, this is electrotherapy. So, we’re mainly dealing with surface electrodes. And so, this isn’t anything invasive. We treat all types of neuropathic pain. So that’s a pretty broad spectrum. And we’ll get into some of that today. 

 

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Okay, good.

 

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But all types of neuropathy. Okay, all right, cancer pain. So, we don’t treat cancer itself with this machine. But we do treat the pain associated with cancer and the pain associated with what’s called chemo induced neuropathy I hear is very common. Yeah, it is very common because chemotherapy, it’s poison to the body. 

Yeah, it’s unnecessary poison. I’m not bashing on chemotherapy at all. It is it is so necessary in many cancers, but mm it does leave the body ravaged with horrible neuropathic pain afterwards many times. There are failed back surgery. 

So, in other words, a back surgery where nothing else can be done. The calmare can then intercede and reduce a person’s pain. 

 

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Oh, nice. 

 

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Phantom limb syndrome is actually one of the very best, this is good for it. Of course, this isn’t very common, but this is a syndrome where you may lose a limb. So, let’s say I left my last my right arm. But yet I wake up every day with Bernie in my right thumb. Doesn’t seem to make sense. 

So, strange to think about it is it is but those nerve pathways up to where the arm was cut off still exist. And yes, you can have this neuropathic pain and what they call phantom limb syndrome. Phantom, of course, because the limb isn’t there anymore. It’s not there, but you still feel it, you still feel it. 

And I have met patients who’ve said that it’s like my big toe is burning, and they have no leg. It’s a bizarre phenomenon. But it does happen. 

 

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This can happen. 

 

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This helps. And then there’s the post shingle neuropathy, people who’ve had shingles and know that pain I someone, yes, there you go. Sometimes the pain doesn’t go away. 

Most of the times it does, I believe more than half anyway, that pain will alleviate after the disease runs its course. But some people are left with a neuropathic pain in that area where they had shingles.

 

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That’s so interesting. Calmare therapy for neuropathy and other conditions, even cancer pain. That’s pretty amazing.

 

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So yeah, there’s a myriad of things that it helps conditions that it helps, and we’ll get into several of them. 

But to clarify, just again, I want to repeat, we’re not treating cancer at all in any fashion. 

 

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Understood, right. 

 

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But we are helping get rid of cancer pain, cancer pain.

 

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So, does Calmare help with CRPS?

 

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It does. Yes. So now CRPS many don’t know about so. In fact, I just started treating a gentleman this week, and that’s why it was on my mind with CRPS 40 years old. Okay, he now CRPS is an acronym for complex regional pain syndrome. 

Okay, it’s a debilitating condition of extreme crane that’s brought on after trauma. It can be surgical, or it can be otherwise. This is pain that typically affects a particular region of the body. It doesn’t necessarily follow regular nerve outlines, it usually encompasses a whole region, though. 

 

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Wow. 

 

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And extremely painful. These people feel like him and for instance, it’s his entire upper torso on the right side. And his entire right arm feels like they’re on fire all the time, 

 

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But not from anything in particular…

 

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Not from anything this was so he went in and had an elbow surgery. And when he woke up, this is what he had his whole torso, upper limb, burning on fire. And he can’t you touch it lightly. 

You brush it lightly, and it feels like somebody’s running a hot poker over over the arm. It’s just awful. But we’ve just started him, and we are optimistic. It’s he gets relief during treatment. So, I’ll have to let you know in the future. 

 

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Yeah,I will look forward to an update on that. You’re listening to the be pain free radio show with Dr. Ward Wagner. And Dr. Wagner. Are you offering our listeners a special today?

 

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I am Yes. So, it’s a $99 examination and consultation. And along with that, you will get one free cow mare treatment. 

 

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Nice. 

 

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So we go through the screening, I make sure that your condition is one that is neuropathic or neurogenic. Okay, and then we do the treatment to see what your response is. 

 

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And boy,if you’ve had that type of pain, you know what that is that so…

 

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Many people have never heard of neuropathy, you know, right.

 

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Or they just assume it’s a diabetic pain. 

 

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And that’s it. Exactly. 

 

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Yeah. So,cancer pain that never occurred to me, but I do hear about that. It just didn’t. Yeah, right. 

So, 6-7-3-1-4-4-3 Call Dr. Ward, Wagner’s office, great staff there, and they can help just say hey, I was listening. I’d like to take advantage of this offer. So, we are talking about Kalmar therapy for neuropathy and other conditions. So, we were just talking about CRPS S, which is a type of neuropathy. 

 

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Yeah,it’s well, it’s classed very similarly. So CRPS again, Complex Regional Pain Syndrome is also known as [unclear]or Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy. RSD. So, I’m sorry about throwing about all these big names. Yeah. Although, you know, people only know about this if they or aloved someone knows…

 

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Okay. 

 

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But their class a little bit differently because they follow trauma. And those traumas being surgery, primarily, stroke can follow. Follow heart attack, okay? And they’re very bizarre. So is in the case of this 40-year-old male that I was discussing. Imagine that you’re in a car accident, okay? And you end up with a partial tear and your rotator cuff. 

So, you get this injury and right, you have this partial tearing in the short shoulder. And so, you think, oh, I’m gonna go in and have surgery on this. Which on another show, I’ll tell you why it isn’t necessarily whenever you have a partial tear, don’t have surgery. But let’s say somebody opts to have surgery. 

Okay, well, they go under, they do the surgery, you wake up, and your entire arm is on fire now. And it’s like, what in the world did you do to me is what? So many of these patients wake up thinking, what did you do while I was under, you know, and it’s scary. It’s frustrating, because there is no cure. 

And usually, it’s just a matter of getting these people on drugs and leaving them alone is all that the medical profession offers.

 

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So sad if you’ve had it, you know? What, okay, so define neuropathy.

 

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Okay? It’s a very actually common condition of burning, tingling, pins and needles. A lot of people call it numbness. It’s not true numbness. But it’s that feeling of numbness that most people think of when you have that tingling. 

 

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Whenyou’re sleeping on your arm. When you wake up, or your hands or feet.

 

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That’s a perfect example. Yes, you sleep wrong, and you wake up and your arms buzzing. So that’s what neuropathy feels about, or feels like it’s typically in the extremities, you know, feet. lower legs are most common, but it can be in the hands and arms. 20 million Americans suffer with it. 

 

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That sounds like a lot.

 

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But it’s funny, because only those of us who are a little more mature even know what it is because it’s rare among young people.

 

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It affects older people. Hmm, right. So, it’s not just diabetics that have neuropathy.

 

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No, no, as a matter of fact, diabetes or diabetic neuropathy is only one faction of you can have all kinds of neuropathy. There’s post chemo, like we said, There’s post traumatic neuropathy. There’s the CRPS. And post…

Yes, and then but they when we say the word neuropathy by itself, it usually means idiopathic peripheral neuropathy, which simply means unknown origin unknown cause very frustrating because these people can’t understand why they have it.

 

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And it’s frustrating. Wow. So, can disc herniations cause neuropathy?

 

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Okay, so, it’s funny that that’s, that’s such a funny question, because so the short answer is no. Okay. But neuropathy means nerve pain, abnormal nerve sensation, right? So, the general answer is yes. But what’s happened over time is that the word neuropathy has evolved more into something that’s simply neurogenic. Right? 

 

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It’s just general. All right. All right. 

 

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So, but yes, these bulges can cause neuropathic type pains. That when you pinch a nerve in the back that disc level, you can get that burning, tingling, you can feel the same as 

 

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Is it temporary, more temporary. 

 

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Well, as long as they’ve got the pressure on the nerve, they will have it, so it goes so there’s a lot of misdiagnoses between neuropathy and like a disc bulge sciatic pain, something like that. Right, right. 

Because if a doctor doesn’t dig in and really discover or understand how to discover what the difference is, then then they can be misdiagnosed, and we see that often.

 

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You’re listening to the be pain free radio show with Dr. Ward Wagner. Today Dr. Wagner is offering for our listeners a $99 initial examined consult along with a free Calmare treatment and we’re talking Callamard today, give their office a call at 6-7-3-1-4-4-3 

You can also check out the website at Dixiechiro.com Dr. Wagner, it’s great to have you always and we’re going to continue talking about oh, this cow mare and what we can do. Now how does someone know if they even have neuropathy? How is it actually diagnosed?

 

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So that again, so frustrating for these patients when they are diagnosed with neuropathy, because the history is the key. Okay? 

That’s what it’s completely based on, because you cannot measure it. And so, in therefore, no doctors understand it really, you can go to John Hopkins Hospital, you can go to Mayo Clinic, nobody understands it. 

They know how to die; they know what it is. All the tests are negative. And so therefore, okay, I’m sorry, you have neuropathy. Here’s your Lyrica. Here’s your Gaba pen. 

So, they can treat it with medicine to help suppress and mask the pain help you sleep. There is no cure. And I won’t sit here and tell you that I know anything more than any of these other doctors. But I am very upfront with them that that the diagnosis comes about because every other test fails. 

And so, it’s a shrug the shoulders and I’m really sorry that you have this. However, in the case of calmare, which we’re discussing, it has miraculous results in helping eliminate the symptoms for long periods of time.

 

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So, what happens when someone comes into your office? What What’s the How does it work?

 

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Okay, so first I do my exam, which and basically, a lot of that is history, because that’s going to play a key part. Okay, right. And then we do the trial. 

So first, I want to make sure that the person fits the right condition, I want to make sure that they weren’t diagnosed incorrectly, prior to coming understood. And then we go ahead and do the treatment. And if it’s a good fit for Calmare, then we put on these surface electrodes and turn it on and see if it cancels your pain immediately.

 

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So how does the Kalmar machine fix neuropathy?

 

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What it’s actually doing is we’re actually working at the brain level. Okay. Okay. So, neuropathy, the idiopathic unknown origin, cause, like I said, you can do tests, you can do imaging studies, you can do all these things to try to diagnose it. But if you come up negative on all those, but you still have this pain, then then we know it’s neuropathy. And that’s an A brain originating problem. 

So, what we’re doing is we’re doing what’s called rewriting the neuro signature. In other words, we’re kind of rebooting the master computer, that I say rebooting to, we are rebooting the master computer, so that your body gets rid of the nerve pain on its own, the perception of pain is canceled. 

So, then your brain recognizes that there should be a no pain signal. We call this neuroplasticity. And anyway, but the long story short, very effective, you can typically tell in that first treatment, have a high indication of whether or not this is going to fix your pain or not.

 

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It’s so interesting to me. So, what about other types of neuropathy or nerve pain? Like what else is out there?

 

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Oh, so many, like I talked about the post car accident stuff with CRPS [unlcear].We also discuss this on our incurable show. Because sometimes there’s a multitude of things that need to happen. 

Sometimes the symptom becomes the disease, and that the longer you have a pain issue, the more the brain memorizes that pain pattern and hangs on toit.

 

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I’m gonna quote you in the future. Sometimes the symptom becomes the disease. You’re listening to the be painfree radio show with Dr. Ward Wagner, Dixie chiropractic, give them a call today and say hey, I was listening to the show. 

Today, I’d like to take advantage of Dr. Wagner’s offer which once again for our listeners $99 and initial exam and consultation as well as one free cow mare treatment. Also go on over to their website, Dixiechiro.com and give him a call 6-7-3-1-4-4-3 Dr. Wagner always great to have you great information.

 

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Thank you so much. Thank you